Home Forums Movies 10 Ways "They" Can Save The Oscars (CONTROVERSIAL OPINIONS AHEAD)

10 Ways "They" Can Save The Oscars (CONTROVERSIAL OPINIONS AHEAD)


CREATE A NEW TOPIC
CREATE A NEW POLL
Viewing 14 posts - 16 through 29 (of 29 total)
Created
3 weeks ago
Last Reply
3 weeks ago
28
( +1 hidden )
replies
1319
views
19
users
Nathan Romberg
3
Luca Giliberti
3
Diet Teridax
3
  • Awardsfan1990
    Participant
    Joined:
    Mar 28th, 2015
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667164

    My thoughts:

    1. The ceremony absolutely NEEDS a host! It would feel really weird without one. He/she should at least keep their opening monologue funny, but not too long.

    2 and 3. I figured these go hand in hand. I say have the ceremony start at 8 P.M. pronto, no exceptions. That means the red carpet special should either be shortened to just an hour, or start a half hour earlier at 6:30 P.M.

    4. Absolutely not. No way in hell should the Oscars move to a streaming service. Streaming services can be iffy at times (and God forbid, what if there’s Internet connection problems in the middle of the show?). At least the Oscars are on a broadcast network like ABC, so you don’t need cable to watch it.

    5. Absolutely not! The way the categories were presented at the Emmys this year were horrible! It felt cold and impersonal, and most of the time, they didn’t even bother announcing the nominees’ names! The Oscars should NOT follow suit like that! If you want efficient presentation, do this: have the presenter(s) come out, quickly talk about the category, avoid unnecessary and/or unscripted banter that goes on for two minutes, announce the nominees/show the clips, and open the envelope. It’s traditional, but it works!

    6. Absolutely not! That would basically be another version of the dreaded and hopefully permanently defunct Best Popular Film category.

    7. I’m not necessarily against a casting category, but I’m still not sure how they should decide which members of the ensemble to include and which ones to not include.

    8. I’m not necessarily against a stunt coordination category, but my big fear is that this will only go to Fast & Furious-type films that are box office gold but critical duds. I want to see versatility in the nominees.

    9. Song performances can be interesting, but I have a rule: either do all the nominated songs, or none at all. I hate it when they have some, but not all nominees perform, mainly due to the popularity of the singer.

    10. Documentary, foreign language, and animated film awards should be presented in the middle of the telecast and the four big categories (Actor, Actress, Director and Picture) should come at the very end.

    ENGLAND
    Participant
    Joined:
    Oct 5th, 2011
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667169

    Get rid of Original Song. What actually determines the winners?

    Guest 2018
    Participant
    Joined:
    Nov 4th, 2010
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667188

    “1. Dump the host- go with a master of ceremonies instead”
    Yes here, too!

    “2. Start the show an hour earlier”
    8 to 11PM, dump the extraneous production numbers, ALL OF THEM.

    “3. Dump the red carpet pre-show (on ABC)”
    Move it back a half-hour.

    4. Move the show to streaming.
    Not yet. If the ratings continue to crater, then streaming may be the only way to keep it going in 2029. The ABC contract is until 2028.

    “5. Present the categories like they did at this year’s Emmys.”
    I’d be open to this.

    “6. Split the Best Picture Category into Outstanding Picture and Unique and Artistic Picture, like it was at the 1st Oscars….”
    No, slap a quota on the BP category; must be no more than 6 nominees; 3 popular/critical hits, 3 indie films that critics alone love. Mainstream moviegoers like me need to feel represented here. Otherwise it’s just another copy of the Indie Spirits. One is enough. Do this, and the audience will return.

    “7. Add a category for Screen Ensemble (aka Best Casting/Best Cast).”
    Casting and Stunt Coordination should be added. Not ensemble.

    “9. Dump the Original Song performances…”
    In lieu of no production numbers, have the original song performances take their place.

    “10. Present all the awards for the long-form films themselves at the very end…”
    Both screenplays, director, actor, actress, BP. Kick off the show with Foreign Language film. Relegate all the shorts (live action and documentary short, doc, to a montage in the middle of the broadcast)

    lovelylovely
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jan 15th, 2017
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667189

    How about stop the stupid “comedic” segments? Those are such a waste of airtime.

    Instead of random tourists walking through the Dolby, or actors and celebrities walking into an adjacent theater with snacks and a giant hot dog cannon, use that time for the awards they’re planning on announcing during commercial breaks.

    I feel like that makes the most sense, since, you know, people watch an awards ceremony…….for the awards…..

    The Night Fury
    Participant
    Joined:
    Nov 16th, 2013
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667190

    How about stop the stupid “comedic” segments? Those are such a waste of airtime.

    Instead of random tourists walking through the Dolby, or actors and celebrities walking into an adjacent theater with snacks and a giant hot dog cannon, use that time for the awards they’re planning on announcing during commercial breaks.

    I feel like that makes the most sense, since, you know, people watch an awards ceremony…….for the awards…..

    Hear hear… That’s something they must dump! Have it be organic… like the Ellen selfie.

    WELCOME TO AWARDS SEASON 2018-19. DESTROY ALL EXPECTATIONS!

    I'm that dork who's also a HTTYD loving Titaniac and Zootopian who is into auto racing, the Olympics and film.

    "Thanks for nothing, you useless reptile..." - Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III

    #HTTYD3
    #TheHiddenWorld

    February 22, 2019

    Twitter: @FILMSTHESEDAYS
    Facebook: nathan.romberg.7

    The Night Fury
    Participant
    Joined:
    Nov 16th, 2013
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667192

    Also, I am enjoying all your responses… I may post a second draft based upon your input soon. 🙂

    WELCOME TO AWARDS SEASON 2018-19. DESTROY ALL EXPECTATIONS!

    I'm that dork who's also a HTTYD loving Titaniac and Zootopian who is into auto racing, the Olympics and film.

    "Thanks for nothing, you useless reptile..." - Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III

    #HTTYD3
    #TheHiddenWorld

    February 22, 2019

    Twitter: @FILMSTHESEDAYS
    Facebook: nathan.romberg.7

    DaytimeEmmyWinner
    Participant
    Joined:
    Sep 17th, 2015
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667237

    Y’all are acting like the Oscars aren’t still one of the highest-rated TV programs of the year. Yes, this past year has an anomalously low audience, but there have always been significant year-over-year increases and decreases. Some years have 40+ million viewers, while others are low-30s, despite little changes between the telecasts.

    There’s certainly a shift in media consumption overall (why watch a whole show when you can check the winners in real-time on social media and watch any important moments on YouTube?) that will affect the ratings long-term, but that’s affecting most television programming.

    The problem is that ABC and the Oscars are serving many distinct audiences. Some are watching for the awards (over-represented here), some want the fashion, some want the music performances, some want the comedic bits, and some are there only because a certain film or performer that year. Why would ABC get rid of the red carpet show that still pulls in a strong audience? I personally skip that and just tune in to the main show, but why get rid of it?

    I’m skeptical of adding new categories when there are so many already that mainstream audiences don’t care about (Sound Mixing, Documentary Short, etc.). I’m especially skeptical of any that dilute the prestige of winning an Oscar (ensemble awards would rapidly multiply the number of actors who are Oscar-winning or -nominated). I do think we may come to a time when the Oscars may take a page from the Emmys and the Grammys and do some of the below-the-line awards pre-ceremony.

    Additionally, while I do think only a small portion of the audience really follows the precursors, the explosion of other awards shows has made the Academy Awards more procedural. Acting sweeps like last year (with little indication of potential upsets) makes it feel a bit like a formality. If the Golden Globes/Critics Choice/SAG/BAFTAs mixed it up a bit more and tossed some wins to Hawkins/Metcalf/Dafoe, it may have been a more interesting night.

    JayDF
    Participant
    Joined:
    Sep 18th, 2011
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667254

    For number 7 are you saying have a single category that awards both an ensemble and casting director(s)?

    PS. I never liked the idea of awarding either ensembles or casting directors but if the academy ever decides to do this I think they should be separate.

    Zooey the Dreamer
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jan 12th, 2012
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667293

    I disagree with most of your ideas. And no, they won’t save the Oscars. The Oscars are doing fine. The Oscars have the ratings Grammy, Tony and Emmy producers could only dream of, even in bad years. For the Tonys, they’re actually unobtainable. But ABC is greedy and the Academy is being stupid. Blame it on the CEO and President, who are running in the wrong direction. I have lost all respect for these people.

    On your ideas.

    1. A big NO. A host is especially crucial to the show’s structure. He is the one who has to keep everything moving.

    5. This year’s Emmys format was the WORST possible format. Yes, it cut time but it felt rushed (like a PowerPoint presentation) and above all, it was anti-climatic. There was no suspense, no sense of urgency right before the envelope was opened. It also made everything bland and boring. Oscar producers could learn something from this year’s Emmys – how NOT to produce a show.

    6. NO! Best Picture is Best Picture. The Oscars are supposed to honor excellence, not moneymakers, not genre films, not any sub-genre. It all leads to Best Picture. If it all leads to two major categories, the Best Picture would lose its significance.

    9. I agree on Song, although I prefer a medley (all songs in 5-6 minutes).

    10. A big NO. And this was a big mistake at this year’s Emmys. I myself was that close of going to bed (it was nearly 5:20 AM in Europe) when they started presenting the top categories. Many people would not continue watching if Actor, Actress are over and now they have to stay for Documentary, Animated, Foreign and then Picture.

    And here’s my idea of how the show would have a better flow.
    DON’T CUT AWARDS. THIS IS INSULTING. THE ACADEMY SHOULD BE AN ORG THAT REPRESENTS ARTISTS, NOT SEGREGATE THEM.

    BUT Be more flexible with categories.
    Let’s say, present an acting category every 45 to 50 minutes.
    Start with the host (and don’t rush). Give the host 12-15 minutes.
    Then present Supporting Actress (around 5:52-5:55 PM).
    Then present other categories, but mix biggies with tech. Like present Visual Effects, Sound Mixing, Sound Editing and Original Screenplay next.
    Around 6:40 PM – present Supporting Actor.
    Then other tech and biggies mixed.
    Around 7:30 PM – present Actor.
    Then present biggies and tech mixed.
    Around 8:25 PM – present Actress.
    Then Directing and Picture.

    And that’s it.
    They present Supporting Actor first, then Supporting Actress by the end of the first hour and then people, who only care about stars (and there are a lot, sadly), have to wait two hours for actress and actor. Why do actor and actress have to be in the last 3 awards of the night? Keep it going. Present their categories early (at least one of them).

    And by the way, leave ABC. They’re pathetic. NBC or CBS should be a better fit.

    Os Rdgs
    Participant
    Joined:
    Dec 5th, 2015
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667317

    Get rid of Original Song. What actually determines the winners?

    [/quratings] That category is one of the few that brings ratings every year. Have no Gaga, The Weeknd, or Timberlake performing and the rating will probably dip.

    MrGoodWood
    Participant
    Joined:
    Dec 14th, 2013
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667424

    There is nothing wrong with the categories, it is the show itself that is boring.

    Harmon Van deth
    Participant
    Joined:
    Mar 21st, 2017
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667426

    I don’t care. Just show all the awards live. Thats All Im Asking, is it that hard?

    FairWeatherAffair
    Participant
    Joined:
    May 11th, 2018
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667449

    I’m of the opinion that the Oscars do not really need “saving” – not because I love the ceremony in its current form and production, but because they are no longer culturally relevant. Audiences are moving on to new media, and film is no longer in vogue (which is okay!).

    This isn’t the 60s/70s/80s anymore, and it shouldn’t be. I see a lot of bother over the declining ratings, but that phenomenon is natural – no program can last near 100 years, refuse to adapt and evolve due to some weird affinity for tradition, and just expect audiences will continue to turn out year after year despite your best efforts to act as if film is still the most accessible medium, which is most definitely no longer the truth.

    What do people want from the Oscars these days? The winners’ speeches uploaded to YouTube. They’ll catch whatever crazy controversy/moment/scandal on Snapchat or Twitter the next day and move on. Which, again, is fine.

    So, really, I’m in favor of the Oscars doing whatever they want. Keep the ceremony the way it is now, they’ll last another twenty years, then fade. Change some things (switch to a streaming platform; no longer air the whole ceremony to the public, and instead just upload the speeches; etc.), and perhaps they can maintain some sort of prestige.

    All of which is to say, the days of the Oscars pulling in 40 or 50 million American eyes are over, and to cry about it and theorize all these changes that aren’t really changes is moot – the public at large moved on a while ago either way, because the Oscars haven’t been a cultural touchstone for some years now.

    The Night Fury
    Participant
    Joined:
    Nov 16th, 2013
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202667676

    REDONE: 10 Ways the Oscars could be Improved, or how I’d personally like to see them

    1. Cut the red carpet pre-show to 30 minutes and move it and the start of the main telecast up an hour.

    2. Add these categories in the next decade:

    – Best Motion Capture or Voice Over Performance
    – Best Stunt Coordination

    – Best Casting
    or
    – Best Screen Ensemble

    3. Present the awards in this order next year:

    – Best Supporting Actress
    – Best Documentary Short Subject
    – Best Makeup and Hairstyling
    (COMMERCIALS)
    – Best Production Design
    – Best Live Action Short Film
    – Best Animated Short Film
    (COMMERCIALS)
    – Best Cinematography
    – Best Film Editing
    – Best Supporting Actor
    (COMMERCIALS)
    – Best Costume Design
    – Best Sound Mixing
    (COMMERCIALS)
    – Best Original Score
    – Best Visual Effects
    – Best Original Song
    (COMMERCIALS)
    – Best Sound Editing
    – Best Adapted Screenplay
    – Best Foreign Language Film
    – Best Original Screenplay
    (COMMERCIALS)
    – Best Documentary Feature
    – Best Director
    – Best Animated Feature
    (COMMERCIALS)
    – Best Actor
    – Best Actress
    (COMMERCIALS)
    – Best Picture


    4. Don’t cut categories for commercials… cut host fluff for commercials!

    5. Keep the Best Picture nominees at a set amount (I’d prefer 10), but continue to use the preferential ballot to vote for the winner.

    6. Keep the host monologue at a 10 minute limit- tops.

    7. If someone cannot perform their nominated song, do not perform any of the original songs.

    8. Avoid long term extensions with networks to televise the show- 5 year extensions before each renewal or move to another broadcast/streaming partner- tops.

    9. Do more behind the scenes segments in the technical categories for each nominee.

    10. Move the show to a permanent weekend slot (First Sunday in March, preferably).

    WELCOME TO AWARDS SEASON 2018-19. DESTROY ALL EXPECTATIONS!

    I'm that dork who's also a HTTYD loving Titaniac and Zootopian who is into auto racing, the Olympics and film.

    "Thanks for nothing, you useless reptile..." - Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III

    #HTTYD3
    #TheHiddenWorld

    February 22, 2019

    Twitter: @FILMSTHESEDAYS
    Facebook: nathan.romberg.7

Viewing 14 posts - 16 through 29 (of 29 total)

The topic ‘10 Ways "They" Can Save The Oscars (CONTROVERSIAL OPINIONS AHEAD)’ is closed to new replies.

Similar Topics
Freeman... - Nov 20, 2018
Movies
David M... - Nov 20, 2018
Movies
ENGLAND - Nov 19, 2018
Movies